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October 02, 2007
Thermo
Aral again has the video. Simply amazing.
In summary, Thermo will be the visual way to create Flex applications, more specifically UIs.
Some say Flash is for designers, Flex is for developers, how will Thermo change this? Actually, the way I see it, Flash is for animations and more creative work, while Flex is for RIAs. Thermo will make RIA creation workflow easier and also will let designers in.
Exciting times ahead!
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Flash is for designers and Flex is for Developers???!!! I keep reading these absurd observations.
Well, the last Flash project I worked on had approx 8,000 lines of AS2 code with approx. 20 OOP classes. I don't know too many designers who know what a class is much less are able to code using OOP.
From what I can tell, Flex is a way for Adobe to lure HTML'ers using braindead, inelegant XML as the format because it feels familiar if you are used to HTML.
I'm all for it because I make my living from Flash and the more Flash out there the better it is for professional Flash developers. But let's stop with this wrongHeaded characterization of Flash (which as you well know includes ActionScript) as some kind of lightweight designer's tool.
Posted by: Joel Fiser at Oct 3, 2007 9:43:51 PM
Hi Joel,
I'm not a fan of XML myself at all.
Flex was the way to convert Java developers to Flash (at first enterprise types).
When people say Flex is for 'developers', they mean, knowingly or not, 'Java developers' who don't consider Flash as a 'developer's tool.
When Macromedia had two separate tools for developing Flash, people were confused. The same people who were confused wanted the difference coined in as few words as possible. Also, Macromedia had to strengthen the identity of Flex as a developer's tool (whatever that means), because Flash was not considered as a serious one, by many. So, there you have 'designers vs. developers'. Obviously, this isn't strictly correct.
I'm also not a fan of Java at all.
Flex is where Java meets XML, doesn't really appeal to me as an ideal solution. Still I can see where Flex has its advantages.
Flash started as an animation tool, Flex was about RIAs from the beginning. In some peoples perception, Flash will always be an animation tool. I don't like it either.
Best,
Burak
Posted by: Burak KALAYCI at Oct 4, 2007 4:50:14 AM
UPDATE:
Narciso (nj) Jaramillo posted 'Frequently Questioned Answers about Thermo' at http://www.rictus.com/muchado/2007/10/07/thoughts-on-thermo/
Posted by: Burak KALAYCI at Oct 7, 2007 4:12:35 PM
UPDATE:
Ryan Stewart uses Thermo to rick roll readers:
http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/?p=1087
(
Rick roll:
To create a false link that when clicked, links the clicker to a YouTube music video by Rick Astley.
Tricking someone to click a link that takes you to Rick Astley's 'Never gonna give you up' music video.
[urbandictionary]
).
Posted by: Burak KALAYCI at Oct 16, 2007 10:23:49 PM
UPDATE:
Peter Elst has Adobe MAX Barcelona video of Mark Anders' keynote on Thermo:
http://www.peterelst.com/blog/2007/10/20/adobe-max-barcelona-thermo/
Posted by: Burak KALAYCI at Oct 21, 2007 2:36:57 PM
